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The Pretrib Contradiction

Alan Kurschner:

Premise 1: Pretribulationism claims that 1 Thessalonians 5:9 is a promise that exempts Christians from the future day of the Lord’s wrath: “For God did not destine us for wrath but for gaining salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ” (1 Thess 5:9).

(So far so good)

Premise 2: Pretribulationism claims that all the seals in the book of Revelation depict the day of the Lord’s wrath, which includes the fifth seal.

(Not so good)

The Pretrib Contradiction: The fifth seal depicts the death of Christians; therefore, according to pretrib reasoning these Christians experience the condemnation of the wrath of God.

Read more: https://www.alankurschner.com/2018/01/18/the-pretrib-contradiction/

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Elections and Earthquakes

A headline from last year showing, once again, that people do not always use the term “earthquake” to speak of a literal earthquake:

An earthquake – and an echo of the 1930s: Historian MARK ALMOND says the German election result puts the stability of the country in question

Source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4915796/German-election-earthquake-echoes-1930s-Mark-Almond.html

This ties in with the historicist claim that “earthquake” in Bible prophecy often means a major shakeup and not necessarily a literal physical earthquake.  That means this future event is likely not a literal earthquake:

Revelation 16:18: And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great.

Why the Early Church Finally Rejected Premillennialism

By Charles E. Hill
Modern Reformation, Jan/Feb 1996, p. 16

Chiliasm is the ancient name for what today is known as premillennialism, the belief that when Jesus Christ returns he will not execute the last judgment at once, but will first set up on earth a temporary kingdom, where resurrected saints will rule with him over non-resurrected subjects for a thousand years of peace and righteousness.1 To say that the Church “rejected chiliasm” may sound bizarre today, when premillennialism is the best known eschatology in Evangelicalism. Having attached itself to funda-mentalism, chiliasm in its dispensationalist form has been vigorously preached in pulpits, taught in Bible colleges and seminaries, and successfully promoted to the masses through study Bibles, books, pamphlets, charts, and a host of radio and television ministries. To many Christians today, premillennialism is the very mark of Christian orthodoxy. But there was a period of well over a “millennium” (over half of the Church’s history), from at least the early fifth century until the sixteenth, when chiliasm was dormant and practically non-existent. Even through the Reformation and much of the post-Refor-mation period, advocates of chiliasm were usually found among fringe groups like the Münsterites. The Augsburg Confession went out of its way to condemn chiliasm (Art. XVII, “Of Christ’s Return to Judgment”), and John Calvin criticized “the chiliasts, who limited the reign of Christ to a thousand years” (Institutes 3.25.5). It was not until the nineteenth century that chiliasm made a respectable comeback, as a favorite doctrine of Christian teachers who were promoting revival in the face of the deadening effects of encroaching liberalism.

Read more: https://www.preteristarchive.com/dEmEnTiA/1996_hill_fathers-rejected-premill.html

The New Spiritual Temple

Martin Luther:

“St. Paul prophesied all this, when in 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4, he calls him: ‘The man of sin and the son of perdition, he that opposeth and exalteth himself against all that is called God or that is worshipped; so that he sitteth in the temple of God, setting himself forth as God.’

But that the Papists want to turn this passage from themselves and say, ‘Christ and Paul are speaking of the temple of Jerusalem, that Antichrist shall sit and rule there,’ amounts to nothing. For Christ says here, that Jerusalem together with the temple shall have an end, and after its destruction it shall never be rebuilt. Therefore since Paul is pointing to the time after the Jewish kingdom, and the destruction of the material temple, it cannot be understood otherwise than of the new spiritual temple, which as he says himself, we are. There, Paul says, the Pope shall sit and be honored, not above God, but above everything that is called God, for the name of God does indeed remain the highest honor, therefore he cannot exalt himself above the true God, but above that which is called God and is worshipped; that is, he is exalted against his preaching and honor, higher than the true God, as is apparent in that so many princes and the world are clinging to him and regard his command higher and greater than the command of God. If any man eats meat contrary to his command or goes out of the impure calling of the priest, monk, or nun, into married life, as God has commanded, or according to the institution of Christ takes the sacrament in both forms; that is the greatest sin. They regard much less stealing, adultery and all open vice against the command of God, and no one is even allowed to punish them for it. Yea, that they themselves defame the Word of God, persecute and kill the Christians, they esteem as the highest service of God, as it is also the highest service they can do for their god, the Pope. Is not this exalting and honoring Antichrist against God, so that if anyone speaks or does anything against this, if he gets into their hands, he must immediately die? I think now that enough has been pictured forth and explained concerning this abomination.”

~Sermons of Martin Luther, Vol. 1, Sermons on Gospel Texts, The Signs on the Day of Judgment, (Ages Software), qtd. in Rand Windburn, “The Abomination of Desolation: Past, Present or Future? Matthew 24:1-15 Examined,” page 21, online at http://www.iconbusters.com/iconbusters/htm/catalogue/abomination_of_desolation.pdf

Three States of the Church in Revelation

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Wilhelmus à Brakel:

These three states are prophesied in Revelation and presented under three symbols, namely:

  1. Seals, representing the church under the heathen emperors.
  2. Trumpets, representing the church under the Antichrist:
  3. Vials, showing the decreasing of the Antichrist and the plagues over him, while the church increases as much as the Antichrist decreases, sometimes the one, sometimes the other winning in the battle, with respect to the external.

Not to be Ignored: Rev. Wilhelmus a Brakel’s Commentary on Revelation (McCarter Providential Enterprises LLC: 2016), page 81.

The “Great City” of Revelation 11

Durham on why Revelation 11’s “Great city” is Rome and not Jerusalem:

“This great City is set out in three properties, which are spiritual, that is, mystically to be understood; So, 1 Corinth. 11, they all eat that spiritual food, &c. that is, something represented by these names, which is to be understood in a spirituall sense and not literally, but as she is called MYSTERIE, BABYLON, &c. Chap. 17:5 because their is a mysterious resemblance, so here she is called spiritually Sodom, that is, for luxury, pride, fulnesse of bread and spirituall uncleannesse, abominable, Ezek. 16:2. Egypt, that is, having and exercising a spirituall tyrannie over Gods people, and abounding in spirituall Idols, as, Egypt did in a more grosse way, for which Israel could not sacrifice among them. 3. It is said, that our Lord was crucified there; not literally, but spiritually as the word before cleareth, and as that word also doth clear that is, either not only was He crucified at Jerusalem, but also there, or it is spiritually Egypt, also spiritually our Lord was crucified there, which cannot agree to Jerusalem, neither to Egypt nor Sodom at that time literally taken: neither were it any mysterie, or spiritually to be understood of Jerusalem (which never getteth the name of the great City) literally. And it is rather designed by that paraphrase, where our Lord was crucified, than by Jerusalem, because mystically the true Church is still in this Book set out by that. This part of the description agreeth to Rome, 1. In that under its dominion, Christ was crucified, and by its Authority, to wit, by a President of theirs Pontius Pilate; for, He was delvered to the Gentile. 2. In respect; of His Members, Ordinances, &c. there He had been long persecuted and crucified in them and put to open shame, Heb. 6:6. In the street of this city, that is, publickly by their Authority, as malefactors used to be in the streets: this is not private murther, but open avowed persecution. See for this, Petrarcha, lib. Epist, sine titulo Epist. 16. who wrote three hundred years since.”

(Durham, Commentary on Revelation, 418)

Source: https://puritanboard.com/threads/historicist-hermeneutic-no-longer-feasible.93406/, comment 2

So Far Must the Beast have a Hand in It

Goodwin on the two witnesses:

“In that he calls the place where their dead bodies lie, and so, by consequence, where this slaughter is to be executed, ‘the city where our Lord was crucified.’ Which is not spoken of Jerusalem, but of Rome; that being here called the great city, which, chap. 17:18, is called ‘the city which then ruled over the kings of the earth;’ which can be none but Rome. And to make this good, we are to know, that the jurisdiction of the Roman empire was then in John’s time called ‘the city.’ And therefore the whole world was called Orbis Romanus, the Roman world. And in like manner now, all kingdoms subjected to the Pope are called the church of Rome, as together making that great city. And in that world the city of Rome was the regal palace, from whence issued out edicts and commands over all. And in such a sense it is said, ‘the city where Christ was crucified;’ because it was the Roman power and authority by which he was put to death, though it were done at Jerusalem, for thither did the jurisdiction of Rome reach; and therefore Christ says, ‘they should deliver him up unto the Gentiles,’ Matt. 20:19,—that is, the Romans, who then had trodden down that holy city, and got the command of it; the Pharisees owning Cæsar for their king. And thus now for the killing these witnesses, it must be that the beast of Rome shall again recover so much owning and acknowledgment in the places of the Reformation, whether by secret combination or by professed avouchment God only knows, where the witnesses are to be killed; so as, for his sake, and at his instigation, these Pharisees, either as joining with him, or else using the help of his party, shall kill them. And so far must the beast have a hand in it, that he may truly be said to do it; and that in order to the further advancement of his power in those places.”

(Goodwin, Works, 3.160)

Source: https://puritanboard.com/threads/historicist-hermeneutic-no-longer-feasible.93406/, Comment 2

Beast Watch: Pope Francis Once Again Admits That The Roman Catholic Church is Mystery Babylon

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“And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication” (Revelation 17:4).

Grace and peace, Saints.

Many of you may be aware that last October, Pope Francis went on an ecumenical journey to Sweden. During an in-flight press conference held aboard the papal jet, the pontiff fielded a variety of questions covering subjects from ecumenism to secularization. Responding to a question from a Swedish journalist regarding the possibility of women being allowed in the Catholic priesthood, Pope Francis made a cryptic, yet very revealing statement wherein he once again admitted that the Roman Catholic religion is, in fact, Mystery Babylon, the worship of Nimrod and Semiramis.

Click here for the full text of the press conference.

Following is the complete dialogue:

Journalist: “Good morning. The Sweden that hosted this important ecumenical encounter has a woman as head of it’s own Church. What do you think: is it realistic to think of women priests also in the Catholic Church in the coming decades? And if not, why are Catholic priests afraid of competition?”

Pope Francis: “Reading the history a bit in the area where we were, I saw that there was a queen who was widowed three times. And I said: but, this woman is strong, and they told me: Swedish women are very strong, very good. And because of this some Swedish man looks for a woman from another nationality…I don’t know if it’s true, but…on the ordination of women in the Catholic Church, the final word is clear, it was said by St. John Paul II and this remains. On competition, I don’t know…”

Journalist: “Never ever?”

Pope Francis: “If we read well the declaration made by St. John Paul II, it goes along this line, yes…But women can do so many things better than men, even in the dogmatic field. To clarify (to perhaps give some clarity, not to say only a reference to a document):

INTERJECTION. Now pay close attention, as the Pope reveals the true nature of Roman Catholicism: that rather than Christianity, Catholicism is really Mystery Babylon, the worship of Nimrod and Semiramis. The greatest emphasis, however, is on Semiramis.

Pope Francis: “In Catholic ecclesiology there are two dimensions to think about: the Petrine dimension (which is from the Apostle Peter and the Apostolic College, which is the pastoral activity of the bishops), as well as the Marian dimension (which is the feminine dimension of the Church); and this I have said more than [once]. I ask myself: who is most important in theology and in the mystic of the Church: the apostles or Mary on the day of Pentecost? It’s Mary! The Church is a woman! It’s “la Chiesa” (in Italian), not “il Chiesa.” It’s “la Chiesa”; and the Church is the spouse of Christ. It’s a spousal mystery.

“And in light of this mystery you will understand the reason for these two dimensions: the Petrine dimension, which is the bishops, and the Marian dimension, which is the maternity of the Church, but in the most profound sense. A Church doesn’t exist without this feminine dimension, because she herself is feminine.” [Boldface and brackets mine.]

If you have ears to hear, then you know that Pope Francis has made some extremely revealing admissions here.

First, it is important to first understand that if the Roman Catholic Church were truly the Bride of Christ, then there would be no mystery, as the bride and groom would already be identified. That there remains a “spousal mystery” is the first clue that the Roman Catholic Church is not the Bride of Christ and Jesus Christ is not the groom of the Roman Catholic Church.

The Pope’s emphasis on the Petrine and Marian dimensions being peculiar to Roman Catholicism is also very important. In biblical Christianity, there are no Petrine or Marian hemispheres, as “Christ is all and in all” (Colossians 3:11). If there were two dimensions to biblical Christianity, then they would have to be the Mosaic Dimension, which is salvation by works, and the Christian Dimension, which is salvation through faith in the shed blood of Jesus Christ:

“For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ” (John 1:17)).

Regarding the Church, there is no spousal mystery. Jesus is the groom and the Church is his bride. There are two great mysteries in the Bible:

  1. the mystery of godliness.
  2. the mystery of iniquity.

The mystery of godliness, which is the Gospel of Jesus Christ, has already been revealed through Scripture and is therefore no longer a mystery:

“And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory” (1 Timothy 3:16).

The mystery to which Pope Francis alludes, therefore, can only be the Mystery of Iniquity, which just happens to be a spousal mystery. The Bible calls this mystery Mystery Babylon:

“And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:

“And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY BABYLON THE GREAT THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.

“And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus…” (Revelation 17:5).

When Pope Francis calls Catholicism a “spousal mystery,” he is admitting that Roman Catholicism is Mystery Babylon, which is the worship of Nimrod and Semiramis. The Petrine and Marian dimensions of Catholic theology are therefore emblematic of the deified couple: St. Peter is a symbol for Nimrod, and the Virgin Mary is a symbol for Semiramis.

It is important to understand that Pope Francis’ use of the words mystery and mystic is a signal that he is speaking in occult or symbolic language. Mystery Babylon uses symbols to conceal the fact that its principle objects of worship are Nimrod and Semiramis. There are two types of symbols: esoteric and exoteric. An esoteric symbol is closer to the truth, while an exoteric symbol is farther from the truth. The Pope has already provided us with the two esoteric symbols for Nimrod and Semiramis in the Petrine and Marian dimensions of Catholic ecclesiology. Any cryptic references the Pope makes to people or things are merely symbolic references to the deified couple.

When the Pope therefore says “in light of this mystery you will understand….the two dimensions,” what he is really saying is “Once you understand that Roman Catholicism is Mystery Babylon, then you will know that everything in Roman Catholicism—from the dead Jesus, to the cross, to the Virgin Mary, to the seven sacraments—is symbolic of Nimrod and Semiramis, and you will have the key to deciphering all my cryptic references, including and especially my reference to the Roman Catholic Church as a ‘spousal mystery.’”

Pope Francis said that he has mentioned the feminine aspect of the Roman Catholic Church in the past, and one such incident may be a homily he gave in 2013, wherein Pope Francis described the Catholic Church as “a widow in search of her spouse,” an obvious reference to the Egyptian legend of Isis and Osiris, who are none other than Nimrod and Semiramis.

Pope Francis’ remarks also proves that the Virgin Mary is not the biblical Mary, the mother of Jesus. The Roman Catholic Church claims its popes are the spiritual descendants of the Apostles. Yet, the Pope claims that the Virgin Mary is the most important person in Catholic theology. The problem with this statement is that according to the Bible, Jesus’ mother Mary was present with the Apostles and the other disciples of the Lord Jesus, in the days from our Lord’s crucifixion up to Pentecost, but she played no major role. Peter was the one who was prominent:

“These [the Apostles] all continued with one accord in prayer and supplication, with the women, and Mary the mother of Jesus, and with His brethren. And in those days Peter stood up in the midst of the disciples…” (Acts 1:14).

In fact, the Bible records that on the day of Pentecost, the Apostle Peter preached a sermon that resulted in three thousand people being converted:

“And when the day of Pentecost was come…Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said, Ye men of Judaea, and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem…hearken unto my words…” (Acts 2:14).

Peter then went on to preach Jesus to the crowd, ending with:

“Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus both Lord and Christ” (Acts 2:36).

What was the result of Peter’s preaching?

“Then they gladly received his word and were baptized: and that same day were added unto them about three thousand souls” (Acts 2:41).

Jesus’ mother Mary is not even mentioned in connection with Pentecost, yet Pope Francis claims that Mary was the most important person on that day!

Why is all this important? You may ask. I’ll tell you. The Roman Catholic Church bills itself as the “mother of all churches,” and claims that it’s popes are the spiritual descendants of the Apostles and that the Apostle Peter was the first pope. This, they believe, gives the Catholic Church the divine right to rule all other churches, including the true Christian Church, and makes the Pope the spiritual head of all churches, including the Christian Church. But, by Pope Francis’ own words, Mary is the most important person in Catholic theology, even more important than the Apostle Peter. If I were a sincere Roman Catholic, I would find this problematic, because, in case you hadn’t noticed, the Virgin Mary is a statue.

Why does the Catholic Church exalt the Virgin Mary above the Apostle Peter, if they consider Peter the first pope? Because, by Pope Francis’ own words, the Catholic Church could not exist without the Virgin Mary. Pope Francis tells us:

“[T]he Marian dimension…is the maternity of the Church, but in the most profound sense. A Church doesn’t exist without this feminine dimension, because she herself is feminine.”

Here, the Pope is again using symbolic language; so, if you interpret “Marian dimension” as the Virgin Mary and “most profound” as esoteric, then you will understand that Pope Francis is telling us that the Catholic Church could not exist without the Virgin Mary because, in it’s most profound (esoteric) sense, the Virgin Mary is Semiramis.

The Pope is saying that the Marian (Semiramis) dimension is more important than the Petrine (Nimrod) dimension, because the Church is Semiramis and Semiramis is the Church. This is why the Roman Catholic Church calls itself “Mother Church.” The Catholic Church is Semiramis, who was worshipped as Cebele, the Goddess Mother and wife of Nimrod. The preeminence of Semiramis over Nimrod is depicted in the Egyptian Mysteries of Isis and Osiris, where we read that “Osiris or Horus, is the doctrine, while Isis is the Church.”

Only when one considers Roman Catholicism from the perspective of the ancient mysteries and understands that the Roman Catholic St. Peter and the Virgin Mary are really esoteric symbols for Nimrod and Semiramis, can one understand why the Catholic Church claims their popes are descended from St. Peter and the Apostles, when the popes are not and have never been anything like the Apostle Peter and the Apostles. The Roman Catholic popes are really reincarnations of Nimrod, while the Virgin Mary is really Semiramis.

Pope Francis once again proves that Roman Catholicism is not Christianity, but “Mystery Babylon The Great, the mother of harlots and abominations of the earth” (Revelation 17:5).

“He who hath an ear, let him hear.”

Be encouraged and look up, for your redemption draweth nigh.

The Still Man

“Mystery Babylon” is Rome, Not Mecca

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Shaun Willcock:

“Through the centuries Christians have maintained, for very sound, biblical, and historical reasons, that the Roman Papacy is the biblical Antichrist,[9] and that the religion of Antichrist, “MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT”, described in such detail in Revelation 17 and 18, is the Roman Catholic institution.  The evidence is simply overwhelming, and I have dealt with this evidence elsewhere.[10]  The Holy Spirit has given us all the identifying marks in His prophetic Word, and they are absolutely conclusive, as has been recognised by the Lord’s people through the ages.  The “great city” is Rome; it arose centuries ago, and will not (as Richardson and others believe) merely arise in the final days of earth’s history; and it has persecuted the saints of God for centuries.  But now along comes a certain Joel Richardson and says, “No!  All those Christians were wrong.  I have solved the enigma!”  This is sheer arrogance, so typical of so many in today’s professing “Church” who have no understanding of Church history and no real interest in it, believing themselves to be the most enlightened Christians of all time.”

Read the entire article here: http://www.biblebasedministries.co.uk/2017/03/03/mystery-babylon-is-rome-not-mecca/

The 7 Churches Represent Churches, Not Ages (Revelation 1:11, 19)

Revelation 1:11:  Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.

Georges de La Tour 046“It has pleased the Lord to mention these seven, to send the book of Revelation to them, not to show the church in seven different periods, as being dealt with in the sequel, but to make them serve for the transmission of this book to other churches, and to strengthen them into seven witnesses.  It also serves to show that the Lord Jesus has His eye on His church after His ascension and is present among her, and as an example for all churches, to follow what is praised in these churches, and to refrain from that which is reproved in them, and to serve as an example of the acts of the Lord Jesus with the churches, which re thus set as these.  This is what was heard.”

Revelation 1:19:  Write the things which thou hast seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter;

Chandelier sept branches Cathédrale Viborg Domkirke Denmark“Some think that the seven letters are prophetic, and signify seven periods.  They, seeing that this verse destroys their opinion, try to bring these three so distinct matters to two, namely, to the signs and the explanation of the signs, whether of all that are included in Revelation, or of the first vision in this chapter.  But the text is clear and states threefold matters of threefold times.  Revelation clearly contains those threefold matters of threefold times  One had happened; the other, the state of the church, was present; the third would happen.  The fourth chapter starts with the words, Come up higher, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter.”

“We say to the question presented above that the seven letters, seals, trumpets, and vials do not signify seven periods or determined time orders; that the letters are not even prophetic; that the other symbols do not represent times, but matters, which the church and the enemy of the church will subsequently meet.”

“Those who proceed along the lines of the seven eras, can do nothing other than misunderstand the entire Revelation.”

~Wilhelmus à Brakel, Not to be Ignored: Rev. Wilhelmus a Brakel’s Commentary on Revelation (McCarter Providential Enterprises LLC: 2016), pages 9, 15, 18, and 82